However, I do find it somewhat interesting that your posting here is coming on the same day the Incredible Discoveries contacted me about trying to post Robert Danoff’s alleged written retraction.

Are you the President, CEO, or owner of the company? What is your full name?

I’m not related to “INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES” in any way shape or form other than being in a DRTV campaign designed by ID to promote my product “*****”. When I first came in contact with them, they also ask me for $75.000 dollars for the “Test Campaign”, But I did not have the money for that! They kept calling me and at the end of the day I was offered a contract to launch my product! They do believe in certain markets and Stomacin-U is doing great thanks to their vision in regards to my product! The professionals working on my commercial helped me in ways that I never considered possible! So my experience was very positive with them!

The arrogant head of ID probably thinks he’ll just shut down as Incredible Discoveries and open up under another name. After all, that’s what he did with Site2Shop, Buyers Shopping Club, National Shopping Club, Great Buys, Hispanic Direct, etc. etc. He’s got plenty of lawyers and plenty of lackeys to do this, and it appears the two groups are interchangeable.

However, it’s more than just the credibility of the company name or “Incredible Discoveries” that is now under a magnifying glass – it’s the dubious non-existent credibility of the man himself, based upon nothing more than his dealings with others. This man’s unwarranted ego is causing his name to be made MUD in the industry on an ever-increasing basis each day.

True to form of those who ARE credible, the “predictions” as to the outcome of these individuals are coming to pass. Once they opted NOT to put forth the type of compensatory settlement agreement to make necessary restitution to Danoff for the egregious wrongs they’ve done to him by setting him up, the die was cast.

Let’s be clear here Matthew. Danoff is the VICTIM, and the manufacturers who’ve lost $75,000 and/or have had to file bankruptcy after losing their homes because of INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES, they’re the VICTIMS.

As a direct result of these contrived cases by INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES against Danoff, he lost a job he had for two years, and now his wife’s Lupus is deemed to be a “pre-existing” medical condition. As a result, she must now leave the country to have needed surgeries related to her condition, as the cost is now prohibitive here. That is wrong on more levels than there are levels, and these people WILL be held to account.

LOSS OF WAGES + LOSS OF MEDICAL COVERAGE + MEDICAL EXPENSES + EXPENSES INCURRED RELATED TO FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS =__________

Instead of spinning their wheels frantically trying to prevent the truth from being disseminated electronically, these people need to generate their energy towards taking a good hard look at what they’ve done to Danoff, to the Padillas, to Abernathy, to Relan and to all the others who’ve yet to come forward. They will NEVER be able to stop the growing momentum now, other than to START MAKING THINGS RIGHT. Step ONE is to FILL IN THE BLANK.

Until there is indication by any VICTIMS that this has been done, the victim alliance WILL NOT STOP, until Alfieri will no longer be able to open up under ANY name. No “silent partnership,” no NOTHING.

Could this be the end of the line for “The Teflon Con” ?

Matthew,

I’m happy to inform you that a Florida court did NOT enjoin Robert Danoff from posting FACT about INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES on the internet, or anywhere else for that matter. Accordingly, measures have been stepped UP to get the FACTS out about this disreputable bunch, to a wide radius of interested entities.

Despite this most recent and MAJOR legal setback, the CEO of INCREDIBLE still fancies himself to be a bit of a WISE GUY. His lawyer’s LACKEY quite foolishly “proposed” a settlement agreement to Danoff, basically amounting to an offer ANYONE could refuse. True to the form of his clients, this lowlife legal beagle lapdog for INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES, tried using Danoff’s wife medical condition of Lupus, to try to jam him into agreeing to “settle” in the name of “resolution.” Instead, the wiseguy wannabe shown to be garmentless Emperor, had much more exposed than he ever counted on.

INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES’ “settlement offer” consisted of Danoff paying not only ALL of ID’s legal fees (accrued the result of the frivolous lawsuits filed against him), but payment of the filing fees for dismissal as well! In return for ID’s “magnanamous” gesture of “temporarily suspending” litigation, the pompous proprietor of INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES put together a “statement” that he actually expected Danoff to post on the internet. Amazingly enough, not only did this statement contain an apology BY Danoff (rather than an apology TO him), it had him taking credit for information he wasn’t even responsible for, expecting him to retract not only that FACTUAL INFORMATION, but other FACTUAL INFORMATION Danoff did provide about them. Completely absurd.

Anyone who worked for this King of Kons and his Kronies, would be amused by this LACKEY lawyer instructing Danoff to “immediately sign the agreement and fax it back.” Gee, that sounds just like part of the scam-o-script to manufacturers, whereby they were pressured to “hurry up” and get the signed vendor agreement faxed back, so that the “Executive Committee” meeting taking place “now” could approve them. Meanwhile, there is no more of an “Executive Committee” than their is a “Focus Group” or “Consumer Test Panel.” I sure hope companies aren’t still falling for THAT ONE…

Fortunately for Danoff, he’s got people in his corner who are consistently two steps ahead of the ID team. Unfortunately for the LACKEY (who was none to happy about being exposed and called out), he made the unwise choice to “inform” Danoff that “his client wasn’t afraid of him or any witness on his behalf.” Ouch ! That one definitely left a MARK, since this classic backfire maneuver caused INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES to get SPANKED the next day, by way of FACTUAL INFORMATION DISSEMINATION on the WWW.

At this juncture, they’ve got the blueprint which SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED at the outset, to formulate a LEGITIMATE settlement offer. Too much to expect, perhaps, from people who are completely CLUELESS as to the meaning of LEGITIMACY. Let’s put it this way: Each day that goes by that said settlement offer does NOT come Danoff’s way, is a day that will be at least as bad, if not WORSE for ID than the day before. Cobra Collection Scam, here they come !!

This is a classic case of Good v. Evil. As is always the case with “good,” the truth and supporting facts are on our side. I most certainly am part of a team, albeit a team established late in the game from the perspective of manufacturers who have had little recourse after having been defrauded by the principals of “Incredible Discoveries.” For these people, it matters little what they call themselves today, or what they may have also been known by at the time THEY LOST MONEY. Better late than never, I’d like to think, as the momentum is building against these people.

I dragged myself into this simply because I knew too much. How fair would it have been for Incredible Discoveries to get away with having an employee LIE UNDER OATH, and wrongly accuse a man of doing something that was never done ? Bob Danoff never solicited ANYONE to go with him after leaving Incredible Discoveries. I was there and I saw what happened. It was the employee-turned-witness who pitched for a new job, and yet he testified a LIE. The other “witness” was a man with a long standing history of drug use, but I’m sure a Judge wasn’t told about that. This man lied because he could ill afford to lose his job too.

The facts are being presented daily, and to more and more people. The Florida Bar Association will soon be presented with a claim by counsel for Incredible Discoveries, that its’ principals never did business under another name. Along with that, they will be provided with public records for SunBiz that show that this same attorney acted as registered agent for the trade names she claims her clients never operated under. The question will then be posed as to possible bar sanctions.

The message here is clear. Bad can only push Good SO FAR, until Good pushes back. They know what needs to be done, and if they fail to comply, they risk going the same way that the Cobra Collection scam did. It’s as simple as that, Matthew. I’m both amazed and amused by the arrogance of these people, but their delay simply means that the meter is still running. How far THEY CHOOSE to allow it to run is entirely UP TO THEM. As for me, I’ll just keep providing the truth until said truth ends up doing them in. As you full well know Matthew, there are people out there who fight the good fight. “At the end of the day,” the losers and the liars LOSE.

The Internet can be a powerful tool but you have to be responsible and highly credible.

I have learned a lot in helping bust the scam that was known as the Cobra Collection scam. There were some rules and guidelines I followed to roll it out. Some were pre-planned and done in a methodical way. Other rules I learned as it unfolded.

The one thing you understand is that the TRUTH is always very hard to conceal and contain for any extended period of time. The trick is to let time be on your side and be patient. People all come out in their own time, in their own way. Some people will step out in a very public way. Others will report in anonymously. Either way, any information gathered helps the cause.

Whatever you do, just present the facts and reports from various people. People are smart and can figure things out when the information has been assembled for them on a silver platter. It is very hard to refute when it sits in a single web page or single website.

Always work as a team, don’t work solo. Solo acts don’t stand a chance. Surround yourself with very reputable and credible people. Keep the losers and liars out. I don’t recommend fighting if you don’t have to but sometimes, in life, you get dragged into it.

Matthew Chan

I thought you would be interested in an update on this incredibly inane case against Bob Danoff.

The most important fact to point out is that Judges don’t like Pro Se defendants, as this point has been inequitably hammered home to Danoff in the Florida courts.

It’s important to also note as to the nature of these Plaintiffs from INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES, that they deliberately go after people they know are unable to afford counsel. Another former employee of this Tricom group contacted me in the Winter of 2004, asking for my assistance with regard to assailing the non-existent credibility of the principals of Incredible Discovery. It seems they had brought a non-compete action against her, for doing no more than trying to find employment with a REPUTABLE company in the “direct response television” industry. As with Danoff, these people knew full well that this woman could not afford an attorney, as she did not own a car and was living “from place to place” on a temporary sublet basis.

Only true cowards go after the weak, but even the most arrogant of cowards can be taken down by the truth.

So, Incredible Discoveries calls Bob Danoff “savvy,” do they ? Actually, he isn’t a savvy type of guy at all, and they know it. Instead, he’s a nice guy who is easily rattled and also impulsive. I have no idea why this particular Judge decided to make such a big issue of a non-issue, but he zeroed in on Danoff for not publishing his phone number in the context of an internet posting seeking legal representation, and instead providing a non-working number for one of the Plaintiffs “alias companies.” He wouldn’t even allow Danoff to speak, claiming that just because of this, he “could not be trusted.” That doesn’t sound anywhere near “equitable” to me…..

Gee, if that’s how the Judge felt about something as trivial as that, I wonder what his reaction would be at the juncture where he had no choice but to comment on the FACT that counsel for the Plaintiff is the SAME INDIVIDUAL who is on public record as the REGISTERED AGENT, for business entities she CLAIMED IN A COURT DOCUMENT AS “FACT” that her clients, the Plaintiffs, never did business under ? Would he have to conclude that it is this woman and her clients that truly cannot be trusted ? In a word: YES.

So Danoff wouldn’t publish his number on the internet. Big deal. Neither would I, and neither would anyone who didn’t want to leave themselves wide open for the “867-5309″ kind of response that song received when it hit the airwaves.

Can these Plaintiffs get a Judge to enjoin Danoff from posting the truth about them on the internet ? Possibly, but since Danoff is nowhere near the only one who knows the truth about them, they’ll win the small battles, but THEY WILL LOSE THE WAR.

Perhaps it’s time to put forth a concerted effort to marshal together the manufactureres who were VICTIMIZED by the plaintiffs here, whether under the name INCREDIBLE DISCOVERIES, TRICOM, PARK BENCH, NATIONAL SHOPPING CLUB, GREAT BUYS, BUYERS SHOPPING NETWORK, SITE2SHOP, HISPANIC DIRECT, and so on and so on and so on !

I know of about a dozen companies myself who were ripped off by these people, and others with whom I am still in touch, know of even more. The TRUTH NEEDS TO COME OUT IN ITS’ ENTIRELY, and I think it’s long past time that these people be provided with a forum, for others to use as a FRAME OF REFERENCE, when deciding on “partnering” with a televison marketing company.

You know something Matthew ? I’m beginning to think that maybe I’ve got these Plaintiffs all wrong. Perhaps they’ve had an attack of conscience and REALLY WANT to be put out of business, in order to prevent any more companies from being ripped off by them. As Martin Luther King once said, THE TRUTH SHALL SET THEM FREE !

Until the wrong done to Danoff is made right, those of us who are not “ethically challenged” will just keep disseminating the truth in a manner like Emeril would say will “kick it up a notch” !

The term BACKFIRE comes to mind, but arrogance does have its’ PRICE.

Keep it up folks !!

In anticipation of possibly utilizing the internet the way you did to have Cobra Collection SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY, I must say that the internet is a more powerful tool than I thought, for use in disseminating the truth to the General Public.

In response to your prior communication with me, I actually would have no problem whatsoever being the one to SPEARHEAD such a campaign, especially since I still have this UNSETTLED feeling that should have been remedied by now.

Since “A” word to the wise is sufficient, a couple of PARAGRAPHS to the ARROGANT, should get the message across quite clearly. I most certainly can reprise your success with Cobra….should that become necessary.